What would you tell a client who faces loss?

Facebook friend Alison Hall just asked, “If you were to forsee a relationship for someone that starts very well but ends in severe financial loss… job loss and with the other partner leaving to be with another… and the person affected would not heed your warning… would you tell them anyway?  Or would these events be karmic for the one to faces all this loss?”   I responded, ” If I see they are in the midst of attracting that, I’d let them know and tell them something concrete to do to change it. If I know they will not heed my words (maybe 75% of clients) I’ll also tell them that, and also tell them why they will feel the impulse to do otherwise and how to overcome it. Everything that happens is karmic, and there are many ways to fulfill the karma without loss being a crisis.”   We got many other good comments as well.Robert Goldberg:  My tuppence on this, though I don’t have a tenth of your dedicated experience.  I’ve long since had the hubris kicked out of me. I don’t want to be in a position of deciding what’s someone’s karma, or what info they should or shouldn’t know. Let them work that out. No doubt, if karma exists, my being with this person is part of the greater unfolding. He came to me for information and intuition. That’s what he gets. What he does with the info (or doesn’t do) is completely his choice.But in no way would I put myself in a position of deciding what someone should or shouldn’t know. I also (mostly) trust my intuition enough to know that if it came up, it needs to come out. I will try to connect well enough to share the information in a useful, or at least an empathic, manner. This is SUCH a deep question, and eventually finds its way back to the reader, the level of confidence in the material received, faith (if you will) in the rightness of the process, even the reader’s complete and utter willingness to be as wrong as a two-headed paramecium. Diplomacy is sometimes a lifesaver. People hear better when their hackles aren’t sticking in their ears.

Andrea de Michaelis:  Robert, I like “if it came up it needs to come out.” Often all that’s needed is a change in perception. I might tell someone I may see financial loss for them relative to someone but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be together.

Robert Goldberg: I’m thinking your famous spidey sense here. Sometimes financial loss is no big deal or just the right thing to have happen. What tingles when you see them together? A wicasu wakan will sock it to ya, then do the ritual to clean that up. I don’t think I can stop anyone from doing something they’re here to do so I don’t worry about that. If the info does stop them? Hey, I got to be a part of their story. Cool. Or not. Not trying to be flippant; it’s a delicate balance. A friend of mine quoted a little old, very wise woman in Alabama, who said, “When I interfere with someone, I not only knock them off their path, I knock myself off mine.” Thing is, I’m not sure I COULD interfere with someone’s real path, however good or ill I felt about it. I take refuge in that. Honesty and extreme sensitivity/compassion. It’s all I know how to do.

Frank Lorie The foreknowledge of one’s possible destiny or future must be such a heavy burden to carry. I am amazed by some peoples abilities to foresee others futures especially when considering to what degree a life learning exerience is called for. There must be an infinitive factor of variables involved, yet the intuits mind and/or psyche is to filter so much out to focus on the most possible or probable outcome… and then provides the subject with information which will enable the most possible outcome to then be altered to the most positive benefit to the subject person… I am soooo awed by these abilities and the intuits knowledge of when and what to share with the subject person which will help shape the best possible outcome. Doesn’t the “gift” dictate full disclosure and call for the intuit to help the subject seek the best possible outcome? The obvious YES to that would then call into question the what is best for the subject. Again, what a dilemma and I am AMAZED to the full extent of the meaning of the word.

Andrea de Michaelis:  Frankie, good words, the thing is the reader never knows what is best for the subject, they only see the patterns of actions and behaviors, none of us can judge what another’s lesson might be, that’s why it’s crucial they make their own choices.

Frank Lorie:  So then am I to assume that all should be told as soon as is possible?

Andrea de Michaelis:  I don’t agree all should be told.

Frank Lorie:  This is very interesting Andrea. There appears to be a certain amount of “doctoring” to be done along with the passing of the knowledge to the subject.

Andrea de Michaelis: I’m trying to think how to word this, there should be no doctoring nor editing.  Someone can ask, is this the love of my life, will I marry him and be happy forever? It can be that they will discover in six weeks they don’t get along, he gets killed in an accident, she meets the real love of her life and marries HIM, so what is the answer to her question?   She’s asking about apples and the answer has to do with oranges.  My experience is few readers are clear enough channels to make someone’s choice for them, they are reading thru the veil of their own stuff and if they have similar issues (usually the case) then they can’t be sure they are clear.  That’s been my experience and from hearing feedback from hundreds over the last 20 years with the magazine.