today we continue on talk to me and our series that we’ve been doing all this year one of my favorite subjects is the

human soul one of my favorite things to talk about when I’m just sitting around hanging out with my friends is that

mystical part of you and me that makes us who we are and transcend even what science can tell us because what I know

for sure we are more than our bodies if you have tuned in to our television show in the last few months you’ve likely

heard me talk about what has I would have to say at this point I think has become a global phenomenon a lot of people have been talking about the universal law of attraction and it’s

been packaged very well I think in a new marketing form because the truth is

there have been world philosophers for years who’ve talked about the idea that we are more than our bodies and there’s

more to our lives and what we can actually see and that really that what we are here is really an illusionary

plane now everybody’s calling that the secret the secret is in fact a universal

law I’m really as I’ve said on my show very excited because for years for me

the real purpose of the Oprah Winfrey Show when I first figured out that I’d been given this opportunity to speak in

people’s homes every day and that was more than just a show I understood that

it was about teaching responsibility about letting people know that you are responsible for your life and so for

years I’ve been talking about some of the principles involved in the secret and that is that the choices that you

make every day and even more so than the choices the way you think and then make the choices has everything to do with

what your life is and so in essence you are creating your reality every day

believe that and seen it work in my own life in so many ways so I’m really excited that the secret has at least

open consciousness in such a way that other people have been able to at least see that light that moment that says you

know what I am more than my body there are no accidents everything is happening

for a reason and I do have a lot of control over it many of you may not know

that there is a secret behind the secret and that for over 20 years Esther Hicks

and her husband Jerry have been spreading the word of that so-called secret that’s really not a secret

because so many people have known it they’ve been spreading that the word of that to thousands upon thousands and

thousands and thousands of people teaching this art of allowing your natural well-being to come forth through

the law of attraction and using the law of attraction to create a more purposeful life it was based on her

knowledge she says of this universal law that she was invited to be a primary contributing expert on the secret Esther

Hicks was maybe you saw the original secret tape the original secret tape you’re on that tape Esther yeah yeah

hi welcome first of all hi hi and so you’re on the first tape and until

probably let’s see last weekend I saw a tape and you were not on it you were first on the tapes and now you’re not on

the tapes can you tell us why your were on the tape not on the tapes well Rhonda originally came to us Rhonda burns the

ground eater of the CES darling girl yeah and she was on a cruise or two with

us were you teaching this law of attraction to like 50 seminars a year and some cruises and so I had heard that

she was there even though I haven’t met her okay I clarified that just to say oh we were cruising together there were a

lot of us okay clarified so anyway they

came on board and they videotaped our entire week-long cruise the whole Rhonda and her crew her crew there were a lot

of them nice nice Australians and then we spent one day in another little room

with a green screen behind and she interviewed Jerry and I and Abraham Abraham is the entity that

you ever ahem is the weird part of me Abraham is the non-physical I’m glad you

said is the non-physical entity that you

use the word to me they are non-physical consciousness okay I quiet my mind and I

tap into their vibration and then I speak what they say okay no no okay

I’m gonna come back to that good so when Rhonda burns and her crew who were

filming the secret at the time started taping you is that what we see on the original tape yes that’s Abraham

that’s Abraham’s thanking yeah and so when I read your book yours and Jerry’s book on the law of

attraction plus I just noticed is on the bestseller lists like nice I think that’s very nice so when I read that

book what I realized is that so much of what is said on an in the secret the

tape is almost directly from your book well that book we just produced that

book but it’s almost a literal transcription of early recordings we did the first recording being law of

attraction the second one being the law of deliberate creation the third one being the law of allowing and Rhonda had

been listening to those recordings she said to us one day in fact I really thank her for the idea about producing

the book because she said to Jerry one day Jay I’ve been listening to these recordings over and over and over again

and every time I hear them I hear something more from them I think you should put that into a book form and

Jerry said I’ve been meaning to do it for a long time he had a lot of it already pulled together and Jerry your husband Jerry my husband yes so that’s

how that book came about was the law of attraction a law of attraction book for those of you who have felt you know

stimulated inspired by the secret I would have to say that the law of attraction really opens that door

further in such a way that you begin to truly understand the principle behind the law of attraction and how it works

in almost every phase of your life I know you believe it works in every phase of our lives I do I believe that the law

of attraction the everything is about that and once you understand the law of attraction and you

are looking not only your own life but anybody else’s that you have you know that you’re close enough to really know

what’s going on you can see that everybody gets exactly what they’re offering vibrationally well you know the

criticism of the secret which I’m using the words interchangeably today but

clearly I know the difference the secret is as I was saying earlier I think and you know there are people who say well no is it marketing I think I

saw some article is it marketing or is it real well the truth is it is marketing it has been marketed and

packaged in such a way that people you know of our generation of this time can

receive it in a way that perhaps they couldn’t receive it with other philosophers or yes and and because of

law of attraction because so many people are asking our contrasting experiences are making us ask more powerfully than

ever before and so more people are asking I think that watching what Rhonda

accomplished with the secret was maybe the best example I’ve ever seen of

someone holding steadily to a thought or an idea and not letting anyone divert

them from their idea and Law of Attraction now you see things that have manifested that she was talking about

things like it was going to be a worldwide phenomenon and people around the world would benefit from it and

everyone would be uplifted by it I think that what happened with the secret is a

really good example of someone deliberately applying law of attraction and in fairness to Rhonda or anyone

who’s trying to put such a big idea out in such a short period of time it isn’t possible to explain how to make that

happen she studied for a long long long long time before she began applying it you

know and so I hear criticism you know we get so much correspondence from people who have been studying our work for a

long time who don’t like how it doesn’t say enough or don’t like how now it’s beginning to be diverted into different

directions that’s kind of turning in the wind just a little bit Gerry and I always say in fairness what what a

wonderful thing this is what a wonderful icebreaker it is and anybody who wants to know more there are a lot of people teaching what to do yes I think

it’s exciting that we’re at a time where people begin to ask those questions about what is my life so exciting to me

that people are beginning to understand that they can do it themselves it’s all about self empowerment okay well let’s

go to some of the criticism immediately because I thought when I first watched the secret I was excited about it

because I thought wow this is great because people gonna realize that things aren’t just happening out of order but

things are really very much happening in order and then I think the criticism has been well if things are happening in

order if you’re really attracting everything into your life then when you have cancer you attracted that these are

questions I really want you to put to Abraham because they explain it so much better those are hard questions but everything

that everyone is living is coming in response to their vibrational output but most people don’t know what they’re

doing okay children even children so bad things happen to children children who are innocent children who don’t know

children who don’t know about their vibrational outlet well it’s it’s like we’re offering a vibration whether we

know that we are or not and we learn our vibration I hear Abraham say that even

when you’re in your mother’s womb you’re picking up on her vibration because of how she feels in her life and when you

were born as that little baby you’re born into an environment where people around you feel a certain way you we we

see it even as we move around this nation that there are neighborhoods that you can just feel how those people feel

and their lives reflected and then we see neighborhoods that you can just feel how those people feel and their lives

reflected and so I don’t think anybody’s saying that you know Abraham says in

Abraham is the the higher consciousness entity that you channel Abraham’s the broader perspective Abraham is Source

Energy the the way source energy coming from the source and we all have access to it yes and through

a process of meditation I managed to quiet my own resistance enough that my

own vibration raised so that I tuned into them well this is a thing I know you’ve agreed to be here because I said

to you I said when they were gonna get you here I said tell her please you got to come on several shows just to come back

because there is no way I’m gonna be able to get all my questions out in one session so I think in our next session I

certainly want you to to channel Abraham but before you do that for everybody who’s listening right now you’re going what sounded weird to me Oprah very

weird hola I wanted you to tell people how absolutely normal you used to be you

know what’s really funny it used to be so normal we think we’re normal now in fact Jerry was laughing about this this

morning that somebody was talking about the weirdness of this and it doesn’t seem weird to us because we’ve been doing it for so long it’s hard for me to

remember what life was like before I had this connection with Abraham and how did the connection start Jerry had been

looking for ways to uplift people long before he even met me so he really had

that going on with him and someone’s lift like motivational speaking not

Jerry was never a motivator he was more an inspiring in that he always looked for strengths and people and then

reflected it back to them okay so he found a book in a library one day written by Jane Roberts is this godless

yes I read all this up and so Jerry’s reading the set books and I was afraid of them they just seemed

weird to me and so he read them in his private time and and that is so interesting you say that because I used

to read them I was reading them back in the late 80s I think it was and then one time I just started to get weirded out

by them and I removed them from my shelf because I didn’t want Seth speaking to me when I got up in the middle of the

night to pee well I don’t know I don’t know I think what made me feel strange about it there was a very odd-looking

picture on the back of the bus and it’s just kind of and so and so Jerry was white and yeah Jerry was wise enough not

to push it at me he just read them and enjoyed them and then every now and again he had say something to me from

one of them and I would say well that makes sense to me until in time I became more interested in the message and not

so freaked out by the way the message came and so then we decided that we were

going to try to find these people and meet with them because now we were brimming with questions yeah and so we

were going to meet them and then like days after we’ve made the decision we were going to try to find Jay and Rob so that could meet set there are

the people who channels right okay they never used that word though I don’t even like that word because it means so many

different things but anyways let’s think you’re weird and I’m anyway so we were

in a little sandwich shop next to a bookstore and a person said to us just out of the blue have you read any of the

staff material which was odd because we had not told a soul that’s what you’re just standing in a shop and then

somebody else we were eating a sandwich and this man just said that to us and we said yes as a matter of fact we have

been and he said did you know Jane Roberts is dead well that was shocking to me and upsetting I haven’t heard it

and I felt like somebody had told me that my sister was dead and I didn’t know it had that kind of an impact but

then we thought well no point in trying to find them because now we can’t meet Seth and so within days good friends and

business partners in Phoenix came to us and they said we’ve got a tape we want you to hear and we said they were acting

weird and I said what is it and they said well it’s Channel well we even know what channel mints we said what’s that

and they because what were you doing in your life because I mean I just I’m trying to establish this because were

you the kind of couple that you’re hanging out with other couples where they’re going to Chandler’s no nothing

like that no we were we Jerry was already financially successful so to tell the truth mostly what we were

doing is finding a good place to eat every day and shopping I mean that was sort of the way our life mostly was nice

yeah what does that feel it’s a distant

memory for me too really but anyway so they they gave us this recording and we

listened to it and it was another woman who was speaking for another CEO so are

you saying that these things are just happening unfolding unfolding yeah it just like Law of Attraction does once

you get on a wavelength and other things like that come to you so absolutely get that and I know people are listening

right now you’ve seen I mean just the other day I was thinking about something thinking about something I walk into my office I open the door and that’s what

everybody in the room was talking about exactly yeah yes so we visited with the oh I wasn’t sure I wanted to go it was a

beautiful poem no weird stuff going on théo relaxed it changed her

consciousness his way she spoke it and Theo began speaking to you aren’t worried it out I was prepared

to be weirded out okay and expected to be but the feeling of it was the most

loving experience that I had ever experienced evilly VD Utley I didn’t know what it was but I believed it was

good I’m talking to Esther Hicks who along with her husband Jerry Hicks the author of a book that’s now on the

bestsellers list called the law of attraction it is really if I may say the

secret behind the secret because they talk about Law of Attraction in depth and Rhonda burns went to them when she

was preparing the secret so continued I’m just trying to find out how Esther came to be Esther who’s channeling

that’s a way I use cuz it’s the most beacon to okay channeling Abraham which he’s agreed to do for us on next week’s

show but go ahead so Jerry has all of these questions that he’s asking and he has a lifetime of questions saved up for

Theo and I didn’t say a word I just sat in amazement as I listen to the dialogue back and forth and then I said I want to

go back tomorrow because now I have questions so we made another appointment we went back the next day and I said

what can we do to more effectively achieve our goals and Theo said meditate

and affirmations and gave us a wonderful affirmation and when she said meditate we were both put off by it because that

just seemed weird to us I thought of people lying on beds of nails or walking on hot coals or or people standing at

the airport standing on one foot with their hand out and yeah so I said what do you mean meditate and Theo said sit

in a quiet room and wear comfortable clothing and focus on your breathing and when your mind wanders and it will just

focus back on your breathing again then the tape recorder clicked off my time is up and there was a girl in the room and

I’m with Stevie I’ll never forget her and she said well do you have one last question because she could see I was a little frustrated that my time was up

and she said like do you want to know who your spiritual guide is why would have never asked that because I had never heard that term but what a year

was this this was 1984 okay yeah so I said yeah it sounded good who is my

spiritual guide and Theo he hesitated I thought oh no this is bad news I thought

maybe my spiritual guide with some someone bad you know because she hesitated and then she said weird

hold it will be given to you directly you’ll have a clairaudient experience and you will know a clairaudient

experience i didn’t know what that meant okay so do we all have spiritual guides yes mm-hmm yes

do you believe that some have more than others no I believe that we all are extensions of Source Energy and we all

have equal access to this wonderful energy it’s just a matter of getting in this place where you can hear do you

have one or two or three or ten I see I when I first was thinking of Abraham I thought of them as like an individual

inside Abraham as many entities they refer to themselves as we they say there are collective consciousness

now you must admit that this is the sound strange it has to it has to I know how I felt about it I know how I felt

about it in the beginning and I have to say if it hadn’t happened to me I probably well I can’t say that because I was listening to Jerry Reed Seth to me

and I was captivated by what I heard from Theo and Stevie who was in the room

said it looked as if my heart opened I mean so who knows you can say what would

have been okay and so when you first started channeling Abraham you go into

meditation and what happened so we went home put on our bathrobe sat in a quiet

room pulled the drapes sat in wingback chairs with an energy between us because it was frankly just too weird to do it

together and I just focused on my breathing we set a timer for 15 minutes and right away I felt numb detached and

it was an incredible sensation so the timer went off and I said let’s do it again so we set the timer again and

again I just breathe focused on my breathing and I couldn’t tell my nose from my foot now I’m excited about

whatever this is because of the feeling of it and about the third that isn’t how you’re just meditating just just you

love the feeling so loved the feeling of it and it’s because it’s better than shopping just been shopping and eating

so you think it now I’ll just meditate I I didn’t know what I was reaching for I

what was in my mind is I’m gonna meditate every day for 15 minutes whatever that means and I’m gonna find

out the name of my spiritual guide that was really what was in my moped got them and so right before right at the end of

that what would is now about 45 minutes of meditation then breathe me it was the most

incredible air drawing in air pushing out I felt like I was a billows that someone was breathing and it was the

most loving incredible feeling of well-being that I had ever experienced in my life and I wanted more of it

something breathe something breathe me that’s the only way I know now it was my first interaction with Abraham but so we

managed if you say I am a bro oh no it’s just because I couldn’t have heard that yeah well we meditated for about nine

months and nothing happened except I got numb every day and I like the sensation of it and then it gets weirder one day

while we were meditating my head just started sort of moving gently and I loved it it felt like flying and the

next day the same thing and about the next day while my head was moving I realized it wasn’t just randomly moving

it was actually like spelling letters like my nose was writing on a chalkboard and I realized they were going through

the alphabet and I was on em and oh and I said to Gerry I’m spelling the

alphabet with my nose and Gerry got a notebook what did you think was going on with see when it’s happening it feels

wonderful and it feels normal it’s Gerry is the one that had to be wondering what was going on yes I would

have called the doctors we might have if we hadn’t experienced Theo we might have if we haven’t been reading all of this

wonderful information from since okay so now we’ve got the combination of intellectually understanding that we’ve

connected to something and we have no way of knowing what it is I couldn’t tell you I only knew that it felt so

good and wanted more of it and I wanted to know okay so you start to spell in with your nose for about two months it

was awkward and awful Jerry well Jerry’s in the middle the night and proct me up in bed and would ask a question and off

we’d go was bizarre and tiring bizarre and tired now when you say that you

channel Abraham and if it’s not called channeling what do you call it well it’s

what inspiration is okay it’s what the basketball player is doing you know he’s trained his body to move well but he

gets into that zone and allows his broader perspective to flow through I mean I think everybody is doing it to some

extent that’s why I don’t like the word implies that only a few can do it and that it’s weird and that they are the

chosen ones and it’s not that way at all everyone has access to this broader perspective why do you call it Abraham

that’s the name they gave and I don’t repeat words as I’m hearing you don’t repeat words that you’re hearing it’s

not like that Abraham gives me a block of thought and at an unconscious level I match that block of thought up with the

physical word equivalent okay so it’s like blending their perspective in our perspective I got it so when they said

so they’ve explained that they’re not speaking they right now I’m talking like you they’re not speaking in in English

or they’re not speaking language speaking in vibration that’s why musicians can translate it that’s why

artists can translate it I got that so I get this block of so where those XM

listener know hang in there that’s better what’s so fantastic is that we’re talking about

this on its own vibrational frequency oh yeah XM 156 that is a vibrational

frequency here so Abraham explains that the block of thought that they offered me mm-hmm

that the word Abraham was the best label that I could find that best defined who

they are because they are at the root of every religion because Abraham is really

a part of every religion you hear it in yes I understand it I’m with you I know you are I’m right there with you as a

matter of fact when I picked up the book this is so weird I was with my producers Sheree and Lisa and they were telling me

about the book because I hadn’t heard about the book and we were at my house reading the book together one weekend

and I said I bet you Esther has something to do with this but she is somehow thought of this and is calling

me in I’ve been calling you in for years in fact when Abraham first came through

me mm-hmm our daughter Tracy was 14 and I wasn’t quite sure how I was going to explain

this to Tracy and so she’d been listening to us read the staff books and and the first thing Tracy said was can I

talk to Abraham the second thing she said is don’t go on Oprah really because

she didn’t want a of her friends who watched you every day yeah to see how weird her mother yeah

I’ve been listening to you and people email us constantly and they say things

that Oh Oprah Oprah knows this Oprah’s got aeneas you know Oprah understands this

and so I told Jerry I said whether we’re on a television show or a radio show or

whether we just get to sit and play without for a little bit it’s all satisfying to me oh that is so wonderful but it’s not interesting I felt it yeah

I felt it and I felt that when they gave me the book I realized that it had been

a journey to that very moment you know what Abraham talks about how our life

causes us when we know what we don’t want we know what we do want and so we’re creating this constant they call

it a vibrational escrow it’s like our future experience that happens vibrationally before we get there and I

see so many things that are in our by in our all of our vibrational escrow in

other words it’s stuff that we’ve asked for that has already happened on some level and if we can just get out of our own way then all those things happen so

I think you were in my vibration I think so too yeah I must have been well so a half hours gone already that’s why I

told you you have to come back next week yeah will be joining again with Esther Hicks on our continued soul series and next

week I’m gonna ask her to bring in Abraham that’s what we’re gonna do and

you’ll explain that my head does not turn all the way around and I I thought I’m trying not to be weirded out I’m

just gonna be cool with Abraham yeah thank you for joining us here on XM 156

talk to me our sole series so happy to have been able to talk to Esther Hicks her book along with her husband Jerry

Hicks is called the law of attraction on the bestsellers list right now it’s the

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oh we’re back continuing our Seoul series last week we were talking to

Esther Hicks Esther still here Esther Hicks author of the law of attraction she and her husband Jerry Hicks wrote

that book along with asking a chumpy given mazing power of deliberate intent and those of you who saw the original

secret tapes you will see Esther on the original secret tapes as we were saying last week she’s no longer on the tapes I

never let you answer why you’re no longer on the tapes we started to ask that question well Rhonda said to us

that because of the contractual agreement that we had with her that

supposed to get 10% that’s what I read in New York Times it was 10% of the DVD sales and 5% of any profit from it and

and when we began it we honestly did not believe that there would be any profit at all because it was a television

series in Australia and our intellectual property rights attorney told us not to

expect anything and we didn’t so we were thrilled with what came from it but she said that they were not able to market

it maybe because Abraham is too weird I don’t know she’d ever explained to me why they weren’t able to market it with Abraham is the entity that vibrates and

then she speaks the vibration I got that yeah and that it would be necessary that

we sign over our intellectual property rights for the material or they would have to edit us out so it was a simple

decision for us mm-hmm and then we began receiving so many emails from so many

people that were so upset that we were no longer in it so we wrote a letter to try to explain because we didn’t want

people to be upset about anything yeah there isn’t anything nothing went wrong everything was alright so there’s no

feud or anything you know I understand why Rhonda did what she did I think and

it is better for me to try to understand because pushing against something isn’t good for me right and I love her she’s

adorable and our books are really doing well but there’s no question about it the emphasis on Law of Attraction has turned

a lot of readers to that book your question about yeah I happened to see it on the New York Times bestsellers list

the other day and I went whoa some other people are being attracted to the law which is nice that’s very nice so at the

time when you were moved were you or Jerry were you upset about it anyway

it was a really painful experience for me because it felt to me like we were

drawn in in one way and utilized and then sort of discarded but feeling sorry

for yourself is not a healthy state of beed and so I’m like way over it yeah really yeah we’ve just been looking at

the positive aspects of it and the positive aspect of it is I’m sure you see this a lot to other people of being

introduced to your work even though you’re no longer on that particular tape in fact two or three people said to me

recently that people are saying to them they’re excited about the secret now what and then they offer them our book

because that kind of tells them what to do next what to do next yeah what’s interesting also to about your book which I really

like very much and I’ve underlined and as I was saying last week when my friends and I some when it was first given to me we all read together and I

think I’m on page 63 what page are you on we’re all talking about it your book

does not put as much emphasis and I think one of the criticisms right now of the secret is and I can see why people

criticize it is that it’s all about getting rich there’s the moment in the secret where I think somebody puts the

check on the ceiling and they’re talking about money money money money money but as I was reading the law of attraction

the law of attraction is about how everything is coming into your life that’s right based on the way you’re thinking and not just about money do you

think that the emphasis on money and getting rich and having boats and planes

and bicycles has hurt it well you know maybe but in fairness as we watched her

production unfold and the original secret I haven’t watched the second one but the original one she had a balance

she had people talking about money and people talking about health and other things I think her intention was to cover everything but you know we have

recordings on all those things too and the ones that are about money are the ones that outsell all of the others

that’s the thing that people seem to think will solve everything we know that it doesn’t I have to say too I think

that’s why people are so attracted to the secret because they think can help them get rich some people do anyway so today we’re

talking about with Esther Hicks who’s the author of the law of attraction and also I like

asking that she’ll be getting that’s on my bedside right now not that I really need to ask for anything else I’m doing

okay but you know though you never stop do you no I mean there’s always something more one of the things I

really got from reading the law of attraction your version of it is that what you can ask for and what I’ve been

asking for and also receiving is more joy because ultimately that is the ultimate success it more joy that’s it

that’s what it’s all about and so to have more joy even in all the things that you already have and all the things that you already do to do those things

deliberately with joy and that’s the best of all of it isn’t it yeah yeah yeah yeah that’s a great ask one of the

other things I liked about what you wrote in the law of attraction you and Jerry is that we do not want to alter

your beliefs and I just wanted to say that because many years ago I was doing on my show something called remembering

your spirit and I was so attacked by it I believed that it was a way of introducing people to the best part the

higher part of themselves remembering your spirit and everyday for about five minutes we take a moment and we’d have people look at their lives differently

spend a quiet moment and so forth and I received so much criticism about it

because some people thought I was trying to tell them what to believe I really wasn’t I was just saying that

who you are is so beautiful just spend some time with that and let that revolve to Atty itself but I love in the law of

attraction I think it’s on page 21 where it says we do not want to alter your

beliefs what does that mean again I want you to ask Abraham that because that is

them saying it but what I hear Abraham saying to us is that everyone gets to

create their own reality and Abraham’s not interested in telling us what we should create they’re only interested in

showing us how we go about creating what our life path is about right I’m gonna

ask you to bring him in in a moment but I just want to be glad we want you to know your value for in the absence of

that understanding you do not attract the legacy that truly belongs to you because in your lack of self

appreciation you deny yourself your natural inheritance of continuous joy

now I read that and I think about all the difficult things that are happening in people’s lives and difficult things

that have happened to me so is it your belief or understanding that we’re all here everybody’s supposed to have

continuous joy yes what about the yin and yang of life well the contrast is what helps us to

define from our personal perspective what it is we want to create and once that explodes in us if we would just

turn our attention to that we’d get that but somehow most of us it’s like getting

back to money we’ll say I don’t have enough money well every time we know that we don’t have enough money we ask

for more and when we ask it is given but we keep beating the drum if I don’t have enough money and I say I said this on

the show that what you see people saying all the time is if I could only make it to the end of the month I’ve heard people say that if I could only just

make it to the end of the month and you do yeah you make it to the end of the month and you don’t have more so are you

saying that the law of attraction says that whatever you give your attention to

that’s what you attract exactly knowing what we don’t want helps us know what we do want yeah but we keep talking about

where we’re at so we don’t let ourselves become a match to what life has caused

us to ask for I got that you say also in the law of attraction page 25 once you

understand that all people circumstances and events are invited into your experience by you through your thought

you will begin to live your life as you intended when you made the decision to come forth into this physical body and

so an understanding of the powerful law of attraction couple with an intention to deliberately create your own life

experience will ultimately lead you to the unparalleled freedom that can only come from a complete understanding and

application of the art of allowing it’s so much fun see lot of attractions working all the time whether we know

that it is or not but when we deliberately set forth an intention and we

deliberately try to hold our thoughts on that by paying attention of the way we feel and guiding our thoughts that way

then to watch things begin to unfold that’s when life’s really fun I got that

yeah I’m talking to Esther Hicks here who is I’m saying today the secret behind the secret because she was a big

big big part she and her husband Jerry of the creation of the DVD that Rhonda Burns did Rhonda and her crews went to sit

with Jerry and with Esther and she was on the original tape she’s no longer on

the tape but she is here in our studio and I’m gonna ask you to channel Abraham and let me just say before you do that

the reason why I wanted to do this on the radio is because I really do think that the television audience is I’m

ready for it yeah so I just know and so I know all the people listening you’re

gonna think it’s a weird thing and maybe it is a weird thing I’m gonna see for myself how weird it is that’s why I

thought I would do this version I do my virgin run with Abraham radio in case

some weirdo thing happen so what happens what is the process can you tell our

listeners what this means I just relaxed and quiet my mind I usually focus on my

breathing are you gonna look the same yeah nothing’s gonna change it’ll be all right okay it’ll be all right my eyes

dilate is about the only thing that’s different but that doesn’t happen every time can you do it does it happen do you

just say hey shows up the only time that I was not even able to bring Abraham in was when the neighbor’s dog got in our

chicken yard years ago and mutilated some of our chickens and I was so upset I couldn’t relax enough to receive them

but so once you channel Abraham here on XM 156 once you do that then I’m talking

to Abraham are you hearing what it is I don’t go away but I become more is the

best way to explain it because tell me again what you said last week that it’s a vibrational field yeah I don’t repeat

words I just they offer a vibration that because I’ve practiced for so many years

I tuned to it easily mm-hmm I think you do it too all right I think you are every bit as weird as me you just don’t

use the label and how how do you see that I’m weird oh I don’t see you as weird I only say

weird in the sense that I believe that you are weird in the way that I’m weird in that you receive broader perspective

or you’ll get an impulse that when you follow it it just at the right time it it’s exactly right yes you know

yeah I’m gonna ask you to bring in Abraham all right you don’t like it I like it we are not really as strange as

all of that it is nice to have an opportunity to visit so Abraham do I

call you Abraham do I call you Esther what’s what’s the protocol most call us Abraham some call us Esther him Esther

him Abraham is fine mm-hm and so when I is so weird so as I sit here on answer

it from your perspective but as you try to define it through the eyes of others yes you see them as seen it as weird and

so then it feels weird but in reality it is not weird everyone is doing this to

some degree to some degree yes thank you for that clarification so may I ask you

some questions about some of the feelings that people have after hearing

that they are attracting into their lives everything that is happening so

you’re saying are you saying that everything happens in our life for a reason we are saying that but

differently than that in this way everything happens for a reason

sounds a little bit like it is an outside reason that has been assigned we

say everything is happening because of the vibration offering that you are

setting forth everything that is coming to anyone is coming in response to what

they’ve been thinking about as you think a thought it activates the vibration and

as you continue to think it that vibration becomes stronger until eventually you call it a belief a belief

is just a thought you keep thinking and once you have activated a vibration enough that it is dominant within your

vibrational patterns then law of attraction matches it up with things like it so that’s why the law of

attraction is that you bring into your life that which is unto itself that is it exactly then why do such bad things

happen to people who are not thinking about those bad things well the best way

to describe that is by saying to you that the thoughts that they have been thinking have the same vibrational

essence in other words someone might say I did not think about that specific

thing but there is no question if something happens what you are living

always matches what you’ve been offering vibrationally there are no exceptions to that so the confusion comes in where

what it means is people are offering vibrations that they don’t know they’re offering because they’ve been thinking

thoughts the thoughts are normal it’s like even what’s going on in your nation today there are so many thoughts that

are fear-based and people accept them as normal but they are not good for people to think those thoughts for instance for instance

as you are thinking about terrorism and

worried about it coming to you wanting to be aware of what color the terror alert is today and things of that nature

as you hold your thoughts upon those things in time they begin to feel normal but why shouldn’t we feel a sense of

terror because we’ve experienced terror in this country that’s what what was the purpose of 9/11 things do not happen

because something outside of you is assigning you a lesson it is that as you’re living life your response to life

causes you to offer vibrations that then law of attraction responds to so if it’s

a little tricky to say that 9/11 happened for a reason unless you

understand that it was the culmination of a lot of people giving a lot of

thought in other words it was sort of a a a trigger point you might say to

people feeling powerless large numbers of people feeling powerless over a long

period of time I asked the question because the terror alerts resulted from

9/11 yes and that attack on our country on our beings and our sense of security

and our sense of feeling like we were safe and so the terror alerts are there as a

warning to people supposedly to say you’re not as safe as you think you are

yes yes well there are all kinds of things that are happening people have cancer and people get run over by trucks

we are certainly in agreement with you that there are things out there that are happening that if you give your

attention to them you would feel those emotions of terror or fear but what we

are suggesting is that if you are able to not just look around and take what’s

happening as it’s given to you so something bad happens you have a fearful response something good happens you have

a joyful response but instead you decide how you want to tune your responses so

you become a more selective sifter you don’t just look and feel instead you decide how you want to feel and then you

look so now you have control of your vibrational offering which means now you

have control of your point of Attraction because we’re all vibrational offerings we are all vibrational beings everything

and you are attracting to yourself the vibrational frequency the vibrational

offering that you are putting out every time no exception even if you’re four years old even if you are one year old

even if you are in your mother’s womb vibration abounds and you are right you

see what happens your senses work this is where we get hung up here because I don’t understand and I’m sure many

people listening to us don’t understand how an innocent child attracts being

raped an innocent child attracts being abused an innocent child tracks being

kidnapped and butchered the first assumption that makes it hard for you to

come round to understanding is the assumption that in order to create you

must have language you must be speaking and so if a child is not speaking then

they must not be attracting where what is happening is you are attracting as

your animals do you even though they do not have language they are communicating in very

powerful ways vibrationally but the question that you asked when we began we

want to come back round to that because it is a good basis for this people often

when they first hear about law of attraction or that you create your own reality most are very excited about the

idea because they want control they want control over the bad things and they want to be able to bring in more of the

good things then soon after as they discover that control of their own experience means control of their own

thoughts then they’re not so sure about all of that because it’s not an easy thing to control one’s thought with so

much stimulation around and so that’s really what you’re speaking to if there is the responsibility of a parent or a

mentor it would be to teach the child that they have guidance within and if

they’re listening to the guidance within they could not comfortably ever settle on the thoughts that would then attract

something unwanted okay I’m here on XM 156 trying to attract a very good

vibration here talking to Esther Hicks who is channeling Abraham on the show

and my question to you though is not about the vibration I understand the

whole vibrational frequency thing and that’s why I feel that in terms of the secret that it’s a great tool it’s a

great tool but I don’t think that it’s an answer to every single question in the world because there are many other

universal laws at play everybody’s born and everybody is going to transition

everybody comes to earth everything that comes to earth eventually takes another form and moves through the earth and out

until wherever we go I could ask you where do we go you withdraw your

consciousness from this physical experience and yuria merge into non-physical and you feel yourself as

the culmination of all that you have become it is an exhilarating experience in one fell swoop to leave behind all

doubt and fear and worry and self-denial and to become in one moment the full

recognized being that you are it’s important to know that you came into

this body from your own fears perspective mm-hmm may I interrupt a second cuz I just thought this are we

making too much of the whole body thing are we kind of caught up on it because that’s what we are are we making too

much of it and so people say for example this person has a bad life this person

has a good life and the way we define good life is by how many things you can have and bad life is that you didn’t have as many things and I ask that

question because as you visit different parts of the world I see people with absolutely nothing who are far happier

than most of the people that I see that have lots and lots of different things so are we are we in the wrong frequency

are we thinking the wrong things about what is good and what is not well it isn’t wrong to seek material things you

are physically manifested you have a material body and so it is right that

you would want to surround yourself with things like that but what happens whether you are in a in an environment

where there is very little stimulation about wanting things or whether you are

in an environment like this where there is so much stimulation about it the important thing to understand is that

whatever life you’re living your life is causing you to define what it is you are

wanting you’re constantly emitting these rockets of desire as you sift through the contrast of your experience it’s a

not a complicated story to unravel and we can give it to you in a very short

period of time if you’re wanting it please do so you are Source Energy every one of you

and you make the decision to come forth into these physical bodies because you know that this leading-edge experience

on planet earth is the leading-edge experience not just for man but for that

which man calls God so as you express yourself forward into these physical bodies the environment

that surrounds you and the contrast of it helps you individually and uniquely to define what you desire and as that

desire is born within you even before you can put words to it it radiates from you like a rocket and the source that

was you before you were born follows that rocket and literally becomes the vibrational

equivalent of every hope and desire and dream that every one of you dream so out

of the contrast is born the ANU they renewed the expanded version of life we

like to refer to that expanded version of you as your vibrational escrow its

who life has caused you to become but most physical beings even though life is

causing them to become this they stand looking at what they have rather than

looking at who they have become so they effect a separation between who they

have now become and who they are letting themself be but the source within them always calls them toward it that’s why

when you feel enthusiasm you are on the same vibration Joseph Campbell said follow your bliss and we think those are

the best words that have ever been offered but sometimes you cannot get a whiff of bliss if you are in despair if

something bad has happened if you’ve witnessed something and someone is saying you should follow your bliss even

though source is calling you you can’t hear it because the vibration of where you are and the vibration of source is

different enough that you can’t hear it not that it isn’t calling but you can’t hear it so do you know what the call of

source sounds like people say it must sound like harps and angels they say it depends on where you are if you are in

appreciation the call of source feels like ulation if you are in despair if you feel powerless the call of source

feels like rage if you are in rage or anger the call of source then feels like

frustration in other words it’s a slight improvement from where you are is what the call of source always sounds like so

911 came out of so many people feeling so powerless for so long that the next

logical step for them was something we always say we want to call you through

the rage and revenge so that you don’t act on it but it is a logical place to be if you’ve ever been depressed you

know how much better you feel when you get mad and your friends don’t want you to be mad they liked you better when you

were depressed but you’ve got to admit at least you’re breathing now you do feel better so everything about

coming into alignment with who you are is about closing that gap between whatever you’re focused upon in your now

experience and who you really are well this has been very interesting very

interesting Thank You Esther Hicks Thank You Abraham but it’s time to wrap this

chapter of our exclusive sole series here on open for insects m156

fascinating to me next week more on how we can apply the law of attraction in

our own lives which I know lots of people are talking about these days and does it work or doesn’t it work and does

it make you a victim that bad things happen and find out if there are other universal laws that also will help us

begin to live a more purposeful life

we’re still talking to Esther Hicks I can’t get enough for her I was written the book the law of

attraction those of you who are stimulated by the secret or have questions about the secret that’s a

great follow up book to open the door expand your thinking really understand

and to be able to begin to put into practice the law of attraction last week Esther was here channeling Abraham I

have to tell you I couldn’t tell the difference between you and Abraham yeah

you don’t find him a lot smarter no I think you’ve been listening to him for so long so I think I do have it but they

do have a clarity that I don’t have a clarity I think I noticed that there is a difference in articulation I mean I

think the sometimes the words feel a little sharper more succinct more direct

that’s that’s what I feel what does that feel like to you when you’re doing that it’s the best thing I ever do them

flowing through me it’s like flying mm-hmm I love the sensation of it yeah it’s the feeling of utter well-being and

it’s the feeling of knowing everything yeah yeah and you say utter well-being

because how do you know what your state of being is to me it’s the absence of anything that’s bothering me yeah I

doubt our well being it’s just that feeling you know that everything’s fine and then everything’s all right and

is the feeling of elation so as I sit here talking to you I wondered when I read yours and Jerry this book on the

law of attraction which is now the New York Times bestseller list this is written so beautifully through the words

of Abraham that you say that you Channel and I’m wondering because you know all

of this now do you ever have a bad day yes well you attracted that two years

absolutely and when I have a bad day I feel guilty which makes the day worse and then I remember Abraham saying you

are where you are you know just reach for a thought that feels better they say you can’t set your radio dial

on 6:30 a.m. and hear what’s being broadcast on 98.7 FM or XM one or that

so when something happens and you focus on it you you feel what it is but you

have choices you say on page 49 of the law of attraction that your attention to anything is drawing it closer to you so

that means even when you’re saying and I loved it when you say try not to think about snow everybody listening right now

don’t think about snow and immediately you think about snow falling snow on a

mountain snow snow and you’re saying in the book the law of attraction that the

vibration doesn’t hear no or don’t the vibration hears snow every subjects two

subjects it’s like picking up a stick and on one end of it is what the absence of what you want and on the other end of

it is what you want so you pick up the the subject and you activate it and

depending on how you feel is which end of the stick you’re on it’s like am I really thinking about my lover coming or

am i noticing that he hasn’t come yet it’s the subject is my lover but if I’m thinking about him coming I feel high

and happy if I’m thinking about the fact that I have no idea where he is or if he’ll ever show up I feel terrible yes

so that’s why you speak about and have written about the law of deliberate creation yeah because I think for most

people they can’t even figure out what it is they really want and I say this to also my friends and people who work up

through me all the time don’t say you do want something but then subconsciously that the layer is but

when you go beneath the surface of it is it and I’m not so sure I’m really gonna get it I’m not just sure I can really have it

because that’s then what is going to be working for you that’s right the university is not responding to our words its responding to the way we feel

so the more you think about for example you say I don’t want to think about it

I’m sick but I don’t want to think about it I’m worried about my child but I don’t want to think about it what happens the

best example that I’ve seen of that a lady was talking to Abraham and she said I’m in such pain I have arthritis in my

hips and every moment I feel uncomfortable how can I think about a

good feeling body when my body hurts so much and Abraham said you have to separate what’s happening from the way

you feel about what’s happening in other words they said you’re in a painful arthritic body and you feel frightened

or you’re in a painful arthritic body and you feel hopeful and the difference between hope and fear is the difference

between recovery or not so the way to begin to use this as a tool to do as you and Jerry say in the

book law of attraction to lead a more purposeful life is to follow your

feelings toward that which is good you have to find a way to quantify the journeys it’s like we Jerry and I Drive

from Phoenix to San Diego and we know how to get there it’s 400 miles we head west we never feel discouraged we know

we’re going to make it even though we’re not happy out there in the desert we can’t wait till we get to San Diego we never worry about making it or not we

don’t get halfway and lose our way and then fight with each other over whose fault it is we’re not there and then go

back to Phoenix Yuma Phoenix Yuma Phoenix team of Phoenix Yuma and then say San Diego is an impossible dream or incurable because that journey we

understand but sometimes people who are sick who want to be well they are well along their way to wellness

vibrationally Abraham said 99.99% of every creation is completed

vibrationally before there’s any physical evidence of it so we’re well along the way to our recovery but then

because we can’t see the evidence of it we go in for another test or whatever

which gives us bad news and then we turn around and go back to Phoenix so Esther Hicks author of the law of attraction

that we’re sitting you’re talking about here today so the source is calling you and it’s up to you to

be able to figure out what the calling is or is it up to you just to decide what it is you want it’s like Kate is five we played with

her in the hotel room a couple of months ago she hit a little car and then it was our job to find it and she’d say you’re

getting warmer you’re getting colder you’re getting warmer and we found it every time and it’s the same sort of

thing somehow we’ve got separated from our understanding that an improved

feeling is moving toward the source that which feels good and I think but but

doesn’t that mean though Esther couldn’t that also mean that there are some sick people out there you know I don’t know

what Abraham would say about that but there are some sick people out there who feel good hurting other people and that

as they feel they feel good as they’re moving in the direction of doing harm to other people Abraham tells the story

this way so imagine taking your ball brahim as the entity that you channels

if you’re just listening for the first time okay take your boat down to this river’s edge with your paddles in and

they say most people deliberately turn the boat upstream and begin paddling very hard and they say why don’t you

just turn and go with the flow and people say well that just seems lazy and what Abraham’s wanting us to understand

is that everything that we want is downstream I’m smiling because I say that to my people all the time and I

don’t have Abraham and I how did I know that if I don’t have Abraham I’m not sure you don’t have Abraham okay I know

that I bet but I but I use that exact phrase I always say that there is a current to everybody’s life and there’s

a flow in your own life and if you’re struggling it means you’re moving upstream turn around find the flow and

you don’t even have to turn the boat and paddle downstream just let go of the oars the current will carry you that’s

what we see so you know so that stream is what’s calling us and here’s what I think goes wrong with so many people is

that when we’re in a really strong negative place yes we don’t have access

to joy we don’t have access to elation the vibrations are too far apart yeah

but we do have access to something that feels a little better and if we could just know that the thought that feels a

little better is a step in the right direction and then the next thought that feels a little better is the next step

right direction getting warmer you’re getting more exactly warmer it’s Kate saying you’re getting warmer exactly yeah so that’s

how you know that’s how you know it feels better that to move toward who you’ve become always feels better to

widen that gap always feels worse how does the law of attraction mesh with

religious beliefs because I think that’s one of the things that when we first did the Secret on the show one of the

questions from one of our viewers was well where is God in all of this and I said God is the sea God God is at the

heart of everything that is so Law of Attraction is responding to our thoughts

and and our thoughts equal our point of Attraction but now consider this so

we’re Source Energy were born into this physical body the contrast causes us to ask for this and ask for this and ask

for this so there’s this vibrational escrow that’s amassing and The Source Energy part of us doesn’t stay over here

in the contrast it rides that rocket and becomes the non-physical vibrational

equivalent of what we’re asking for so God has expanded through us and is standing there in that expanded

beingness calling us toward it when we move in the direction of it we feel better when we move in opposition to it

we feel worse how did we get so far off course I think it’s because well-meaning

people it’s like our mothers say listen to what I say instead of listen to how

you feel mm-hmm I think it’s because when somebody adores you and they focus on

you and they hold you as their object of attention and because they’re adoring you they’re connected to source and they’re flooded all over you it feels so

good and then you want more of that from them yeah but then if they’re not connected then you don’t get that you get whatever

it is they’re that they’re offering but this is so wonderful that’s why you know I have a hundred and fifty one girls at

my school I know and one of the beautiful things about raising children it’s so amazing how I attract AddThis to

myself because I used to say the reason I would want to have children is so that I could begin to teach them the power of

themselves just like in The Wizard of Oz which i think is one of the greatest spiritual stories you’ve always had the power you all

had it my dear that glenda the goodwitch says and to be able to let them know that they come from the source as you

call it and that there’s a part of them that because you do come from that that

you can do amazing things in your life and so now I have this school and all of

my girls meditate before they go into their tests they meditate and before they do any sports games they meditate

they all meditate and they have their own religious beliefs we have muslims and hindus and we have christian girls

until all the girls have their separate religious beliefs but then all together on Sunday afternoon we all do yoga

together and I was in a yoga class with these 12 year old girls talking about the benefits of meditation and how

because they now learned that they that they can go inside themselves before they take a test and calm themselves and

when I see that I realize that we have all been taught how not to trust

ourselves and my goal with my school and these girls is to teach them how to begin to trust themselves it’s deafening

to trust themselves and also trust that which is greater than themselves to use this source there is not anything that’s

greater than us when we’re aligned with who we really are yeah that’s what I teach the girls that when you are Gary Zukhov calls it

authentic power when your personality is aligned with your soul that that is authentic power when you are in

alignment with your source yeah was there a moment after you were taken off

the secret tape because we said that in the previous shows you were on the original tapes and now you’re not with

were you upset because it’s since it’s been such a great success maybe I felt some you could call it jealousy

initially because I didn’t understand what happened but then the more I thought about it the more I realized

that the world wants the message but they might not be ready for the messenger and then meeting you and

meaning Abraham Abraham so why didn’t you just why didn’t you in don’t you just want to speak as yourself well I

think that when Abraham flows through me there’s a clarity that is beyond

anything that I can give I ask you this because the reason why I’m not talking to you on television right now is

because I know there are too many people who would be weirded out by the whole prospect of

Abraham and so in that way maybe it hinders you it does I think and and I

think maybe see now I’ve seen the secret this is open to something for me because it makes me realize I can visit with you

I think I can express the message there’s hundreds of thousands of people that have been listening to our recordings you know I know so if I were

on television and I were doing the teaching when they are customed to hearing it from Abraham they’d probably

be alright with it but I’m sure they would say where is Abraham but you must know that the fact that you talk about

Abraham and that you channel Abraham and want him to speak through you want them

sorry want them to speak through you that that makes people feel weird yeah I know I don’t blame them it made me feel

weird too but so what not just weird they think you’re a kook so what so what I’m not calling your cool but you know

so what do you do when you’re having this phenomenal experience where source

energy is pouring through you it’s just what is what so what do you do I don’t know this is so interesting I

was talking some friends about this recently and I was thinking that too bad I won’t be around but maybe I can channel myself here a hundred years from

now because I think 50 years from now I think first of all the secret your books all of that are elevating conscious to

the point where this won’t be so weird you have in a decade from now this won’t be so weird 25 years from now that will

be so weird and I’m gonna take this to another level of weirdness and I a way if Jerry were doing this I’d be mad at me but I’m gonna do anyway right after

we met Abraham we were living in Phoenix and I was receiving them and we were having a wonderful time and Jerry was

teaching from the book Think and Grow Rich and he was telling the story about a share croppers daughter who said my

Mami’s gotta have 50 cents and she just stepped right up in the face of this man and demanded it and he reached in his

pocket and gave it to her which he couldn’t believe that it happened and while I’m sitting there in the audience I feel consumed with this energy that I

recognize must surely be Napoleon Hill it was strong and he was so excited about Jerry’s delivery of this story so

as soon as Jerry got off the stage I said Jerry I believe that Napoleon Hill has something that he wants to say to

you and we went to the car sat in the backseat of the car and this ProLiant hill I know I’m sorry but it’s okay you know no one’s

dead okay you know and so Jerry has activated this by his lively expression

from this book and so this energy is now interested in what we’re talking about and Jerry asked Napoleon Hill what would

you have done differently and Napoleon Hill said I would have told where I got it from and Jerry said why didn’t you

and he said the book would have never been published so then bolian hill author of Think and Grow Rich yes

so then years go by we receive Abraham I’ve never heard the word law of traction I’d never read any of this stuff Abraham

encouraged me not to read because they didn’t want me to worry about where I was getting anything so we’re bitter along we’re doing our

thing and then my dad died and so we went out to the funeral and Jerry doesn’t go to the funeral he goes to the

bookstore and he finds this book Think and Grow Rich and it’s a weird-looking book and he picks it up and it’s the

original manuscript that it was just now being published so he buys this original manuscript then he buys a copy of the

book that he had been reading all these years and compares it line by line and every reference to vibration everything

that’s vibrational everything that that talked about the ethers all the stuff that’s like Abraham stuff is is edited

out of the book original book so Jerry and I just thought it was so funny so now herewith come full circle we’re

interacting with Rob the reason it was edited out is because the people can’t can’t receive is what you’re just saying

they’re not ready for it and so so then we meet Rhonda she run a burn to secret

listening to it and now she’s making a movie called the secret and as they’re in the editing production early in our

process with them we get this correspondence from her that run has been told that they have to edit out the

word vibration and they so they edited the word vibration and Jerry and I said seventy years later we’re still editing

out the word vibration you’re right Oprah the the reason is because people might not be ready to understand yeah

that they are Source Energy and physical bodies yeah and that we are vibration we are vibration now in your book the law

of attraction you say an all-inclusive never-changing set of rules doesn’t exist when I read that I thought well

geez when people read that they’re gonna think well this is in conflict with Christian teachings specifically the 10

commandments Christian teachings are in conflict with Christian teachings – yes you know they’re well I can’t argue that

but specifically I’m just talking about the law of attraction saying that rules change that people evolve and so rules

also should be evolving with with people then when someone stood before Jesus dripping their illness

he did not see them in their sickness he saw them in their wholeness he saw their

vibrational escrow he saw who they really are and he held that in his mind

so powerfully that he dominated the vibration of their being so that they were well and then he said go forth

until no one yes and that’s why you say in the book also you say that the greatest thing which that really was the

sentence that changed me that Abraham said through you that the greatest gift you can give to someone is your highest

expectation of them so when you see the best in them because when you see the best in someone you’re tuned in tapped

in turned on to Source Energy so it’s not just you looking at them you’re flooding all over them with Source

Energy and by Source Energy you mean what most people call God yeah Abraham doesn’t use the word God because they

say it just makes you think of what you already think about God and what they think is different than most people it

makes you think of God in the religious context yeah I feel so much more closer

to Christ as a result of what I’ve learned from Abraham then I ever knew before because I feel like I feel how he

felt I feel like I know what he knew when he says the kingdom of heaven is within you he was talking about this

connection to source I don’t have to say that to for all the people who feel that it conflicts with your religion you know

I obviously was raised not just Christian but Baptist and you know still hold to my Christian beliefs and I would

say that everything that I’ve learned metaphysically has really only enhanced what I believe about that which we call

God do you have time for a really quick story sure we were doing some telephone consultations a few years ago and there

was a woman talking to Abraham and what she really wanted was a fortune-telling and Abraham’s a teacher they don’t tell

fortunes they try to empower people and so she wasn’t really having a good time and so Abraham said to her

let’s pick some subjects and activate them and then they’ll show up in your experience and then you’ll know your power well she wasn’t having any of it

she said like what they said light blue glass and then they described different blue glasses they said a

feather think about feathers on birds on hats think about butterflies and she

wasn’t having any about the cosmic about them and then see how they show up anything about them and and but she everyone was just wanting to get her to

talk about them with them long enough that it would activate the vibration of them so she got off the phone and I said

to Gerry she’ll probably ask for her money back because I could tell that she didn’t was not having a good time with

Abraham because they wouldn’t tell her her fortune so then we were in La Jolla and we went to George’s restaurants

which we found the use of U and ate that wonderful soup so anyway we were on our way to George’s and we parked the car

got out of the car and right in front of me was a story that I have not been in before and we got clear in the back of

the store there was a wall of blue glass unlike anything I’d ever seen in my life and I didn’t make the connection between

the consultation but there it was so then we went to George’s and had lunch then we walked down to the cove and we

were walking across the grass right before you get down there and there was a flurry of butterflies that surrounded

us that was so intense we had to stop talking to keep from eating them and then all of a sudden I see a little boy

running across the lawn and he came right up to me and handed me a pigeons feather that had picked up off the

ground and when that happened I was stranger me a stranger and when that happened I realized that all three of

those things that Abraham had deliberately activated in that woman’s vibration and apparently in mind within

an hour of that consultation the universe had delivered them all to me because when we activate something

without resistance it comes fast boy I love that yeah I love that yeah if you

activate something without resistance that means also without doubt so start

with something easy don’t work don’t work on the boyfriend that you’ve been trying to get for 20 years or the money that you’ve know I have to tell you the

first time we were started talking about this that’s what my best friend Cale says well I don’t know how come I have a boyfriend then that’s why I don’t know

really that’s why cuz because I don’t know why I don’t have a boyfriend is the where is he he’s not here

the dominant vibration oh I’m gonna tell her that she needs to size honest-to-goodness when we started

talking about that she goes well if the law of attraction works and I should have a man by now no because her vibration says I don’t

have a man where is he where’s my stuff and he’s over there and vibrational escrow she’s been adding to him he is so

magnificent and so beautiful and in the moment she drops those oars he’ll flow right into her experience

really absolutely so tell me again what she needs to do she needs to she needs

to stop stop talking about him not being there and start saying things like well maybe he’s coming and I’d like him to

come and I believe that he’s out there and wouldn’t it be nice if I she does so she did say that on the road trip I

believe he’s coming I believe he’s there and so when that is the strongest vibration within her he will be there

but as long as he’s not coming she’s holding him away with those other thoughts so you’re saying start small start with

something easy meaning something that you’re not already worried about so it starts out what cuz you’re testing it

you’re just testing it well you can test it you can test it I would test the law of attraction

I would deliberately activate things in my mind and that I would watch law of attraction bring them and then you’ll

trust the law and then you’ll start to feel worthy and then you can start shifting your vibration on the things

that you’ve been beating the drum of that aren’t working for you so I also understand it in terms of because you know you’ve watched me for years those

are you’re listening I heard me go up and down and up and down the scale I understand why the struggle that just

eat exactly the word struggle with weight has made it such an issue because

of the struggle and so in order to be freed of it you must release the

struggle of it no longer fear potatoes or potato chips no they’re gonna make me

fat they’re gonna make me fat as you’re eating them they’re gonna make me fat or getting on the scale okay guys everybody who’s listening you’ve done this you get

on the scale and you feel worse the numbers make you feel worse and then you decide well okay I’m just gonna eat to

make myself feel better yeah so you can’t get the thing that you are worried about because the worry is the

indication that you’re offering the vibration of the lack of it a worry worried isn’t keeping you from it it’s

your indication of where your vibrator because the thought creates a vibration and the good thoughts create

good vibrations let’s see how can I say that the vibration what we’re always

feeling is the vibrational interplay between who we really are and who were being in this moment so life caused me

to want to be prosperous let’s say but I’m beating the drama I can’t pay my

bills today okay the emotion that I’m feeling is the relationship it’s the vibrational discord between who I really

am and where I’m being in this moment so by reaching for a thought that feels better I tuned myself up that

vibrational scale in the vibrational alignment with the money that is waiting

for me or the lover that’s waiting for me or whatever what happening for you so what I’ve been saying for years I’ve

known this because when people ask me you know how did this happen to you how do you have this life I have understood

that I am where I am in who I am because I really believed when I was a child I

was told that I was God’s child I used to call him my daddy Jesus he’s my daddy so I really did believe everything that

I was taught about the kingdom of heaven is at hand and asking you shall be given and greater things these that I have

done you I really really did believe that because that’s really all I had to

believe so I grew up thinking that I could I could be whatever God wanted me

to be that a nice thing for you to know don’t you want everybody to know that

yes I do yes yes and that’s why we are where we are yeah it’s a joy just have

been able to yeah share this time with you it’s a great fun for me thank you for coming

bringing Abraham and the gang yeah Thank You Esther Hicks the law of attraction

on the best sellers list right now it really deeply defined explains and opens

the door to all of the notions of the secret so I’m really happy to have been able to have the book I underlined it so

many times I now need a new book thank you so much for being with us thank you too on our soul series next week more on how we can

apply the law