{"id":6640,"date":"2009-12-19T04:12:28","date_gmt":"2009-12-19T09:12:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/horizonsmagazine.com\/blog\/?p=6640"},"modified":"2015-04-13T21:00:24","modified_gmt":"2015-04-14T02:00:24","slug":"writing-your-book-vanity-presses-self-publishing-publishing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/horizonsmagazine.com\/blog\/writing-your-book-vanity-presses-self-publishing-publishing\/","title":{"rendered":"Writing your book? Vanity presses, self publishing, publishing"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I emailed last week with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.examiner.com\/x-11245-Philadelphia-Speculative-Fiction-Examiner\" target=\"_blank\">Cassandra Yorgey<\/a> upon the topic of friends who self publish, to understand the implications of using <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lulu_%28company%29\" target=\"_blank\">LuLu<\/a>, a vanity press, versus a traditional publishing model. It&#8217;s important to be clear on what it is and what the differences are because vanity presses are sometimes deceitful.\u00a0 I told her that I have friends all the time who are working on books and ask me about book publishers, which I know zilch about.\u00a0 But some seem to think Lulu is the way to go.\u00a0 Not wanting to be an author, I don&#8217;t care enough about it to want to research it myself. I asked her is there somewhere I could refer them to?\u00a0 Is there a good site or blog post that gives helpful basic info to the ones who ask me to be referred somewhere for info?<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.examiner.com\/x-11245-Philadelphia-Speculative-Fiction-Examiner\" target=\"_blank\">Cassandra Yorgey<\/a> responded: &#8220;I generally send people to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sfwa.org\/for-authors\/writer-beware\/\" target=\"_blank\">Writers Beware<\/a> first.\u00a0 Self-publishing doesn&#8217;t tend to get credit as a professional reference and rarely earns back the money invested into it. A general rule of thumb is that money should flow *towards* the writer, not away. I would suggest to anyone who has a completed manuscript that querying a literary agent would MOST LIKELY be a better use of their time. Not always, but most likely.<\/p>\n<p>Very recently <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Harlequin_Enterprises\" target=\"_blank\">Harlequin<\/a>, a noted romance publisher, made the mistake of opening a vanity-pub branch and got kicked out of all the respectable groups like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sfwa.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">SFWA<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rwanational.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">RWA<\/a>. <a href=\"http:\/\/whatever.scalzi.com\/2009\/11\/20\/writers-organizations-to-harlequin-if-youre-not-going-to-act-like-a-real-publisher-were-not-going-to-treat-you-like-one\/\" target=\"_blank\">Here&#8217;s<\/a> a pretty accurate discussion of how the industry feels about that.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I get so many requests about how someone may get their book published, and I was glad to get this info to share.\u00a0 I&#8217;d like to hear your experiences.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/horizonsmagazine.com\/blog\/?p=39957\" rel=\"bookmark\">RELATED:\u00a0 New self publishing authors: don\u2019t let friends proofread, hire a professional<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/horizonsmagazine.com\/blog\/?p=39188\" rel=\"bookmark\">Publish traditionally, solo self-publish or something else?<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/horizonsmagazine.com\/blog\/?p=38264\" rel=\"bookmark\">New Authors: How not to fall for an editing\/publishing scam<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/horizonsmagazine.com\/blog\/?p=39136\" rel=\"bookmark\">Book not selling? 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